One of the most resonant moments in the GOP debate came near the end, when the Reagan Library crowd applauded the record 234 people executed in Texas on Perry’s watch
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Washington Post | Rick Perry comes out fighting | By Dana Milbank | Simi Valley Calif – Asked about Texas’s worst-in-the-nation school graduation rates and his education-funding cuts, Perry blamed immigrants. After Paul ranted about Perry’s attempt to impose mandatory vaccines for girls to protect against the sexually transmitted HPV virus, Perry complained, “I kind of feel like the pinata here at the party.”
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By JUANA SUMMERS
Politico. com
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If you’d kept up with Wednesday’s GOP presidential debate only by Twitter, you could have easily thought Mitt Romney and Rick Perry were the only candidates on stage and their other six rivals for the Republican presidential nomination had decided to stay home.
The clash between the two over jobs that kicked off the NBC News/POLITICO debate was an instant Twitter hit, making the phrase “Romney and Perry” a top Twitter trend. But it didn’t take long for users to grow weary of the back-and-forth between the two rivals standing next to each other on the debate stage at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif.
“Get the camera off Romney and Perry for two seconds please,” Steven Miles (@StevenM4Liberty) of Oviedo, Florida tweeted just minutes into the debate.
Justin Lewis, of Tampa, was dismissive as well. “Now this is great reality TV,” he tweeted.
With all eyes on Perry’s debut on the presidential debate stage, and the intensity of the jabs between the Texas governor and Romney, the other candidates had as much trouble breaking through on Twitter as they did on stage.
That included Michele Bachman — many tweeters noted how little screen time she got. “My wife believes Bachmann is being ignored. I agree. Old boys party,” Philadelphia lawyer Steve Pennington (@politicalsteve) tweeted.
And Bob Owens (@confederateyank), a Raleigh, N.C., web developer tweeted that he had heard from Bachmann so infrequently that he thought she had left the stage early.
The University of Virginia’s Larry Sabato (@LarrySabato) deemed Bachmann the night’s biggest loser in his own post-debate analysis. “Nothing stopped her ongoing fall,” he tweeted.
Twitter was kinder to Huntsman. New Hampshire operative Michael Dennehy deemed the former Utah governor’s showing a “solid effort” and called him the GOP field’s most improved player.
“Of all the candidates in the debate tonight, I gained the most respect for John [sic] Huntsman,” Austin resident Paul Schuler tweeted.
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Let's face it. The Republican Presidential debate is nothing more than media "dininfotainment" programming.
Anyone with a realistic and in-depth understanding of the US economy and its place in the globalized world knows that Wall Street and private elite special interest money controls US economic policy, including jobs, the stock market, and worker wages, benefits and credit.
So it matters not what this Presidential spin panel says.
That said, it was telling that Perry was clearly out of his league on the national stage last night, except of course to his fans here in Texas and the Tea Party.
What a great national rallying cry from Perry: "Social security is a ponzi scheme." Anyone 40 and over was yelling: "Go to hell, Perry. You are NOT going to mess with my social security"
Again, all of the candidates are nothing more than big corporation fiscal conservatives. Believe it or not, and many of you won't, we already have that with Obama. So what's the difference?
After watching both debates, it seems clear to me none of these people will be able to beat Obama, even with as weak a job as he has done with the economy in his first four years.
As we have seen for the last 30 + years, and that includes Obama, once they get in office all the candidates from both parties always morph into nothing more than big corporation lobby money controlled fiscal conservatives.
So, for me, it is only social policy that I watch for from these mostly religious extremist candidates. And on that count, Paul, Romney and Huntsman are the only ones who I believe would not try to establish a dangerous repressive Theocracy here in America.
And for that reason only, I will always vote Democrat because the Democrats generally do not espouse our version of an extreme right wing fascist social policy.
To be sure, I would vote Republican someday if they would ever nominate a small business fiscal conservative that was not also a religious extremist megalomaniac.
Ron Paul is leading the post debate poll, currently with over 50% of the 68,000 votes cast.
Notice the graph is terribly skewed to minimize the distance between Paul and the next nearest, Romney, who is at 17%.
Maybe Paul is that popular. Maybe his crowd is that enthusiastic. Maybe some level of both.
Democrats & Independents... this is a great year to vote in the Republican primary, and help put a candidate on the ballot who won't rush us into new wars, and who will improve our national security by bringing our troops home.
Republicans... a great year to select a real fiscal conservative.
Loved Perry's reference to 17th Century star gazer and father of modern science Galileo who was tried for heresy in 1633 for his theories on heliocentrism that ran deadly counter to the Roman Catholic church.
Clever of Perry. A morsel of red meat dropped under the debate table to the evangelical right, circa 2011--"the Lord set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved." Psalm 104:5.
Perry denies scientific evidence that man and his machines are speeding up global warming.
Back in the day, I wonder would Perry have joined Pope Urban VIII and his Cardinals in banning Galileo's books on the earth's and planets' rotations around the sun? I think yes.
Under Perry, Palin and Bachmann we might as well prepare for the New Inquisition.
Oh right. The Republican Party as an anti-war vote?
Now that is ridiculous spin.
First Anomymous is one gullible voter.
He needs to distinquish between fiscal conservative salesmen and real fiscal conservatives.
Ron Paul almost sounded like a babbling fool at times last night. And yes, his anti-war stance is admirable but his ideological privatization policies for everything would be a public health, infrastructure, and consumer safety nightmare.
If Paul really is ahead in the polls, it is only because his voters know he is experiencing his last hurrah.
My mind was made up when Perry joined the cast of clowns pimping for the GOP nomination-abomination. I might still consider Huntsman. But I will most likely join the majority of sensible voters who will re-elect Obama and sweep out the tea party so the country can move forward again. People have had their fill of those cockeyed anarchists who wish to destroy everything decent in their path and take us back to the dark ages. NO WAY JOSE. Not for me and my kids and grandkids.
I always look at who the liberals are so against in the mix, and that will usually be my candidate if everything else gels. It sure looks like Perry is the choice with Huntsman being dead last. I thought Perry was the one with the more pragmatic and agreeable answers and Gingrich was the runner up. Perry was right about SS being a Ponzi scheme and anybody that understands what that is would agree. Ditto forthe Texas death penalty. He should have mentioned the right-to-work laws and no income tax that also make Texas a great state in which to work or own business.
I am a bit concerned with the religious right aspects of the Perry campaign but the Constitution should hold them in check.
Everything last Anonymous praised Perry for are all the reasons he will never be elected.
Looks like Ron Paul won the debate from this poll:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/07/7658608-who-do-you-think-won-the-republican-debate-at-the-reagan-library
revealing pictures of Paul and Perry during a commercial break:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2011/sep/08/rick-perry-ron-paul-photos
Ron Paul highlights of the debate:
http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-09-07/ron-paul-highlights-gop-debate-at-the-reagan-library/
and the Ron Paul ad that got banned:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s2rMnov4Ae8
Another Republican candidates debate is on TV tonight. From 7-9 p.m. the CNN/Tea Party Debate will air on CNN.
Tea Party debate?
That must mean the candidates must try and be as stupid and as backwards ae possible to be liked by the Tea Party.
Bachman and Perry will win this one, with the possible come from behind victory by the Oreo cookie candidate.
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