Tuesday, August 21, 2012

In nutty presidential campaign, it's hard to distinguish fact from bullsh*t anymore?

Cartoon of the Week

Who's telling the truth in the great medicare debate?

If you are enrolled in Medicare, approaching the age when you can enroll, or if you are a member of the younger set paying into Medicare through your payroll deductions, you should be paying close attention to the big ad wars being waged by the Obama and Romney campaigns over their respective plans for Medicare. Check out the dueling ads below and see if you can tell which side is telling the truth and which side is three sheets to the wind. You'll have to fine tune your inner truth detector (and do your own research) because these days in what passes for political debate, it's harder than ever to tell fact from pure D bullshit.


Anonymous said...

It takes 20 minutes to die in an abortion and 100 years to die from air pollution.

Anonymous said...

All politicians are compulsivve liars.

But the Republicans are completely nuts.

All you brainwashed GOP voters out there must know these two R&R twerps are lying to you. Unless you make over $200,000 a year, they don't care one iota about you.

And what is it with all you GOP women? Seriously, have you no self-respect?

Your crazy men are telling you that you are too stupid to make your own reproductive decisions - and that your father or uncle or brother can rape you and get you pregnant and you just have to take it.

Don't you get it? Are you right wing women so self-loathing that you just allow your crazy men to treat you like breeding animals?

Women voting for any of these neoGOP politicians are definitely getting raped - legitimately.

And don't give me that fake right wing indignation like you are all above such honesty. You GOP women are getting intellectually raped everyday by your political beliefs.

Abortion should be a last resort. But for your ignorant and crazy male or female guilt manipulative politicians to tell you what you can do with your life is not love, it's hateful disrespect.

You GOP women hate the Taliban in the middle east but you are all married to the American Taliban right here in the USA.

Absolutely pathetic.

Me said...

There’s a reason America’s political system SUCKS, and it will never, EVER be fixed.

It’s never going to get any better; don’t look for it; be happy with what you’ve got.

Because the owners - the owners of this country - don't want the political system fixed. I'm talking about the real owners now, the BIG owners! The Wealthy… the REAL owners! The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions.

Forget the politicians. They are irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice! You have OWNERS! They OWN YOU. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the White House, the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets. They own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the cajones and ovaries.

They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else.

But I'll tell you what they don’t want:

They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests.

That’s right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and talk about how badly they’re getting ripped off by a system that threw them overboard 30 years ago.

You know what they do want? They want obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these crappy jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pensions.

And now these pigs want your Medicare and even your basic retirement nest egg. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street.

And you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you sooner or later because they own you with phrases like "right to work state" and "free markets" and "vouchers" and even phony phrases like "right to life."

See, it’s a big club run by the Mitt Romneys and the Bill Clintons of the world - and you ain’t in it! You and I are not in the big club.

By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. They are beating you over the head with their phony liberal media and crazy right wing propoganda telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy.

The game is already set folks. The game is rigged and nobody wants to notice. Nobody wants to care, especially Republicans these days.

Good honest hard-working people; white collar, blue collar - it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on, they will continue to elect these rich jerks who don’t give a damn about them.

That’s what the owners count on: The fact that Americans will remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue flag you are being blindfolded with everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth.

It’s called the American Dream, because you have to be numb or dumb to believe it.

The new USA: The Land of the Lost Content.

Vote for Romney and his buff VP anus. You deserve their legalized corruption and social hate.

Vote for Obama. You deserve more disappointment.

Us said...

Anonymous 1 is obviously an ignorant right wing Republican.

To show you how sadly crazy his thinking is, won't his grandchildren be alive in 100 years?

So he doesn't care that his own or his friend's grandchildren will die from pollution years from now?

He doesn't care that his children's children will have major respiratory problems or even cancer caused by pollutants in their adult life?

And what about water pollution and unsafe working conditions - which these right wing corporate whores condone with their "death panel" regulatory platforms?

That is how absolutely pathetic these right wing robots are.

Jasper, come in here right now! said...

I hate to say it, but the two posters above have nailed it.

We have to rise up and overthrow our masters.

The time to resist is now.

The only thing I would argue with is that it does still matter who you vote for and we will be in a little better hands with the Democrats.

The Republicans do not even pay homage to individual freedom any longer.

Anonymous said...

The publisher obviously thinks his readers are stupid.

The original cartoon DID NOT have the polluting factory circled.

C'mon publisher, show your readers some respect.

Anonymous said...

Boss Rove wants to dump the Akin nutcase because Akin is telling the truth about how the neoRepublicans really think and what they want to do.

Welcome to the new right wing financial fascism.

Anonymous said...

Here are some "Facts".
When you go to vote think about how Obama has ruined this country with his leftist agenda and policies.

In 2009, Obama told us that he “will be held accountable.”

Then on July 23, 2012 Obama said, "We tried our plan and it worked"

Well, he can't seal these records:

23 million unemployed
The middle class has lost 40% of its net worth under Obama
Black poverty at record highs
Black youth unemployment over 50%
Hispanic unemployment at 11%
Food prices up 15% under Obama
A record 45 million on food stamps
Gas prices doubled under Obama
42 months of unemployment above 8%
Obama has the worst job creation record since 1945 (BLS)
Obama recovery the worst in 75 years
Median household income $4,300 declines under Obama
Average family health insurance up $1,500 under Obama
Added $6 trillion to our debt...more than all Prezs. Combined
Presided over only US credit downgrade

If Obama's plan worked how come so many young people and poor are out of work?

Vote Obama out in November and get this economy moving again.

Lilith said...

And just WHO was the President when the Banks and Wall Street put our economy INTO this tailspin?

It was not Obama...and he, like the rest of us, is peddling as fast as we can to overcome so many years of Republican chicanery and greed.

Vote for Obama, it is the only chance we have to right the ship of state.

Vote for R and R? Puh-leeze. More greed, more fascism, more men telling women who they are and how they should behave. No thank you.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Right Wing "Facts" Anonymous is one ignorant American.

Does he really think any US president has that much power - in just four years.

Those "facts" have been getting worse ever since Ronald Rayguns turned our country over to the Christian right and Wall Street.

These Republicans are so stupid they think readers will just accept these ridiculous stats as "facts" without doing research to truth check such lies.

No, that is what right winger do - believe anything and everything they are told - true or not.

Anonymous said...

It is a shame that this once great Blog has become little more that a Liberal Love Fest. I find it more and more unimportant. I'll stay away from it and I do hope Bob is able to see the error of his inattention.

Good Riddance said...

TAMPA (The Borowitz Report):

With the threat of Hurricane Isaac hitting Florida next week, the Republican National Committee took the extraordinary step today of moving their 2012 National Convention to the seventeenth century.

While the decision to send the convention four centuries back in time raised eyebrows among some political observers, R.N.C. spokesperson Harland Dorrinson downplayed the unusual nature of the move.

“After exploring a number of options, we decided that moving to the seventeenth century would cause the least disruption,” he said. “We’re not going to have to change a thing.”

Mr. Dorrinson added that despite recent controversy involving the U.S. Senate candidate Representative Todd Akin (R., Miss.), there would be no modification of the Party’s official platform: “After we ban abortion in cases of rape and incest, we’re going to focus on America’s spiralling witch problem.”

Them said...

I like conservatives
I despise Republicans

I hate big government mandatory sonograms against women
I support government mandated background checks for Republican men wanting a prescription for Viagra

I have compassion for the poor
I have no compassion for corporations

To liberals AFDC mean "Aid for Families with Dependent Childrens"
To Republicans i means "Aid For Dependent Corporations."

Independent said...

Last Anonymous above ignores the fact that the right wing criticism he so hates was brought on only by the crazy extremism of his neoRepublican ilk.

Bob's choice of what he is publishing only reflects the real attitudes create by such right wing ignorance and hate.

For sure Mr Obama is not that competent. But he is not bat crap crazy like the neoRepublicans.

Last Anonymous needs to own his blame - or start standing up against the nuttiness in his party's politics.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous @ 7:01, Please give me your data, If it has been going on since Reagan, that must include the liar under oath, Bill Clinton, the liberal hero.

Anonymous said...

Dear Stupid,

Of course the slow decline of the US economy began under Reagan. And yes, Clinton was a big part of the acceleration of the continual decline of the US economy.

And Obama is responsible as well.

But only idiotic right wingers like you think Obama created all those problems in four years.

You need to look at your closet racism, Anonymous Bubba.

Anonymous said...

@Us , If the Grandchildren can survive the Abortion they should live to at least 70 years old according to the latest Actuary tables. If they don't starve to Death from the lack of employment due to Knuckled head Environmental Regulations.

Anonymous said...

@ anonymous at 9:15pm. Racism? Is that all you got? Mr. Alinsky or Mrs. Alinsky or Ms. Alinsky. Good Luck with your position.

Les said...


Anonymous said...

Stupid neocon wants to have someone explain 40 years of economic decline in one post in this blog?

Only a foil would expect that. Do your own research dude. It's called intellectual curiosity.

And Bubba 2 tries to explain why long term pollution death is better than women not letting themselves be politIcally raped by these neocon Christian nutcases.

Good luck with that Mr Todd Akin of Wimberley.

Independent Mind said...

Ignorant bigoted right wingers and judgmental ego trippin' liberals.

Clearly some stereotypes are are true.

We said...

Anonymous @US:

Your grandchildren wouldn't live 50 years with you neocons determining environmental regulations.

Please, move to some fracking zone and drink the flammable water for five years. Prove your point with a personal experiment.

So now, let's hear you rationalization as to why you don't have the courage to prove your assertions.

Liberal eating rodent said...


When you start saying something other than just party line liberal crap, your "mice" reference might mean something.

Where are your ideas, Clinton wanna be?

Glee said...

Kenny G's wife filed for divorce.

She said the sax was boring.

Glee 2 said...

How many Republicans does it take to screw in a light bulb?

One. The rest are passing laws to make sure no one else can.

Anonymous said...

Shut up and vote!

Les said...

back on your meds Liberal eating rodent aka. anonymouse

Smarter to be A-mouse said...

Isaac is state rep mandatory sonogram

Les is liberal mandatory labotomy

Obama beats Williard my 50 electoral votes

Anonymous said...

Ryan-Romney can blow smoke about saving Medicare until they're blue in the face. I don't believe a word they are saying. Their plan to deconstruct Medicare and turn it into a fixed voucher program (basically privatizing it) represents the biggest baldfaced back-stabbing of American seniors in the history of the country.

Lieben said...

Of R & R are lying about Medicare. We just have to hope independents are smart enough to see through their lies.

The right wing believes R & R just as they believe Fox News lies and the lie that their Americanized version of Jesus is the real Jesus.

The real Jesus would loved all people, not just white Republicans.

Anonymous said...

The pre-world War 2 Nazi Germany elected a leader that attacked and demonized homosexuals, non-whites, intellectuals, liberals, and non-Christians, tried to blame foreigners and Jews for their economic problems, expected women to be pure and produce only white master race children, and financially collaborated with powerful corporations.

Go forward amost 80 years and now the same people want to implement and impose a modern day right wing financial junta - with Mitt Romney as their Vichy like leader.

What happened to the Tea Party? Was it really only about racism? Why do they now support someone who is epitome of why they were formed in the first place.

They should be voting for Gary Johnson. He is the only conservative in the Presidential race.

To all sane people, I present to you the same terrified xenophobic doomed to fail

When the music's over said...

Last Anonymous is correct. Gary Johnson is the only real conservative still runnning for president. And he is on all 50 state ballots.

The right wing rationalizes their sellout to the big money corporate whore Romney with the "anyone but Obama" delusion - based on a little racism, some xenophobia, and a lot of ignorance about the diffence between real free markets and a corporate controlled economy.

Democrats at least know their guy is a corporate whore, but at least Obama does not hate women for having their own minds - and doesn't try to implement fascist voter suppression laws to corrupt democratic elections - which the right wing rhetorics pretends it cares about.

If Romney is elected, the crap will really hit the fan (we will see a repeat recession or even a depression) when the rich get even richer and the middle class will need food stamps, but won't be able to get them.

In other words, cynical Christians are correct about the craziness of the Mormon religion, but they hate Obama so much they are willing to lie to themselves that Mormonism is like Catholicism.

The truth is Mormonism is the Christianity version of Scientology. In fact, they believe black skin is a result of the devil's curse. Look it up.

If Romney is elected, initially they will feel relieved. But after the honeymoon, the right wing will be even angrier - sitting at home masturbating with their guns to pictures of their Mormon white president - with their Fox News channel unavailable because they won't be able to afford cable.

Idiot's Guide to Reagan said...

Anonymous of August 23, 2012 6:13 PM asks about facts about Reagan?

Well, right wingers like you don't want to know the the truth about Ronald Reagan. But here are some the facts:

Reagan was an informer for the FBI during the McCarthy witch hunts.

Reagan as CA Governor dispersed gaseous chemicals on American students at UC Berkeley

As President, Reagan accelerated the collapse of the American automobile and steel industries to cheaper producers overseas to offet the high inlfationary cost of the US dollar during his first term as President. These two powerful US ecomomic sectors have never recovered from those policies.

Along with pushing US consumers to Japanese automakers and steel producers, Reagan championed the early decline of the US middle class by using his executive power to begin the destruction of labor unions, giving US corporations increasing control over worker wages and benefits, which is the why our US economy is no longer exceptional or world leading.

Reagan illegally sold arms to Iran, a declared enemy of the US; he used the money to fund and arm the ruthless Contras in central America - a group who systematically raped and killed tens of thousands of innocent women and children. Reagan know about it and didn't care - he authorized these illegal and heinous crimes.

In fact, Reagan was a scumbag and ended up being a nutty man while US president who had his cronies lie to citizens about his mental disease.

And it took Clinton eight years to create a surplus and it took Bush eight years to piss it all away.

Obama has not had enough time to make up for Bush or solve any problems.

And we all know Romney is just another Bush economics clone, but with a little more intelligence.

WPOA Watchdog said...

I will be voting for Mr Obama this time.

Anonymous said...

@ anonymous 12:30pm This pretty much sums it up. "and the middle class will need food stamps", Maybe the "Takers" ought get off their asses and work. Without a vibrant private sector there will not be enough taxes to pay for Liberals pipe dreams. Free men are never Equal and Equal men are never Free, Socialism and Communism never works, We just finished a 4 yr experiment with that. I have more respect for the bum on a Street corner than a Liberal going to the mail box once a month for their check, At least the Bums are out in the Heat and the Cold and getting money from Volunteers instead of unwilling Tax payers. The Tax payers can use their money to provide for their families or expand their businesses, There by expanding tax revenue to try to sustain more Liberal Pipe Dreams. Do you all get it know or are we going to have to wait until November when even the working class understands that when the Entrepeneurs suffer they suffer more by an order of Magnitude.

Caesar's Salad said...

If, God forbid, the Ryan/Romney/Bain/Mormom ticket wins in November, you can Kiss Goodbye to what's left of the middle class.

Under a Ryan/Romney administration, everyone who is not a lying, tax-cheating Wall Street Fat Cat will be deported (or outsourced) to Southeast Asia or South America to work for pennies a day under humiliating conditions, thereby solving chronic high unemployment at home.

You might not know this, but Corporate America and Wall Street have already figured out, under their plans, that one-half of the country's workforce is no longer needed to produce an acceptable GDP.

All's I can say is good luck to you poor suckers who are believing the BS they're feeding you. And God's Speed when you and your family are being herded onto the deportation train to be sent to the slave labor camps at some God forsaken place on the planet.

Anonymous said...

To the unsigned comment:
It is unfortunate that you publish an unsigned comment that is totally false. It adds nothing to the rational discussion of the issues.

Roy Pursley

When the Music Ends said...

Roy Pursely should himself write something relevant and fact based - and not just dribble that fits his right wing accounting ideology - before accusing others of "falsehoods" that he doesn't even counter with an alternative.

A right wing "fact" is that when a woman is raped, her body shuts down the fertility process.

If that is a "fact," then when a woman is personally "raped" by the Texas Republicans with their mandatory sonograms, then her body will abort, which makes the right wingers abortionists.

But at least Pursely uses his real name - a bit of courage that Les the Clintonista would appreciate.

Spiritual Truth said...

To see what Mitt Romney really believes, go to the YouTube video below - produced by Mormons.

Mormons deny the specifics - but all the beliefs are found in the Book of Mormon.

I'll take a half-white birther US president anyday over these nutcases.

Spiritual Resubmit said...

Actually, the video on my previous posts may be the propoganda cartoon produced edit by the Mormon Church. And the sound it bad as well.

The banned cartoon below is the one the Mormons made that they banned because is was too honest and real.

I'm sure you want a US president that believes this stuff.

Reality Sucks said...

Anonymous says:

"Maybe the "Takers" ought get off their asses and work. Without a vibrant private sector there will not be enough taxes to pay for Liberals pipe dreams."

What about the "takers" like your private sector energy companies who get price reduction subsidies from taxpayers while they are making record profits.

What about the "takers" like your private sector war contractors who get taxpayer money to overbill the Defense Department and who suck over 20% of our US revenue budget (not including interest on the debt their services cost) to kill Americans and to invade countries to control markets for US multinationals (and to make your right wing chicken hawk politicians look manly)?

What about the "takers" like your private sector health insurance/pharmaceutical/medical equipment companies who get ALL the money from Medicare and Medicaid while these companies overcharge sick people and make US health insurance # 37 on the global list of the best health system - while having extremely profitable regional monopolies.

What about the "takers" like your private sector supermarkets and food distribution companies who get ALL the money from the US food stamp programs.

This Anonymous is the perfect example of right wing ignorance. They have very narrow and bogus viewpoints that fail to acknowledge their own political hypocrisy.

What this Anonymous refuses to admit is that the real costly "takers" of our welfare system is the AFDC beneficiaries:

"Aid For Dependent Corporations"

Hence, Republicans are no longer conservatives. They are corporate welfare fathers and mothers - and they are too stupid to even know it.

Tired of Phony Hustlers said...

Most of the comments in this blog are based on laughable politics, especially from the so-called "conservatives."

These phonies have to decide if they are conservatives or Republicans.

Republicans who believe in tax payer funded corporate welfare are big government economic Republicans.

Republicans who believe in mandatory sonograms and legislated picture ID voter suppression laws that allow gun owner picture IDs but not college student picture IDS are nothing but big government right wing fascist scum.

And all you phony right wingers who attack Obama for doing none of those things while your own lying deceitful politicians are doing them cannot call yourselves

You are Republicans. And nowadays that is a big difference.

HYPOCRITES, all of you.

A Caring American said...

Republicans are the losers even if they win the White House.

The party is a throwback to the fear and hate of the Communist witch hunt era when their sick white Christian dysfunction was at its most socially and economically pathetic.

The main function of the RNC money machine is to disenfranchise minorities and to label anyone who has compassion for struggling Americans as welfare proponents and socialist.

Only the most ignorant and/or abused Americans believe their hateful platforms.

Sane Americans can take comfort in the truth that these hate mongers and racists are very unhappy people who blame everyone but themselves for their pathetic lives.

Isn't it wild that such hate and rhetorical violence is caused by a mildly competent half-
white President?

Based on the same criteria, they should have lynched W. Bush.

Wishful Thinking said...

Ron Paul was offered a speaking role at the Tampa hate convention if he would endorse Willard Romney.

Dr. Paul had the integrity to say NO.

Would it be refreshing if true conservative voters did too?

Reality Check said...


1. Romney will carry HAYS County handily. He will sweep Republicans to victory.

2. The Looney comments here are serving to energize the Republican Base. Thank You!

3. Criticizing Romney's religion reminds one of the attacks on JFK for being a Catholic. How did that work out?

4. All religions are based on myth and parables. Only the Mussys decapitate in the name of Allah. Liberals kill pre-born babies.

5. Jobs are going overseas because that is where Obama sent the money.

6. Look at unemployment the deficit and the debt then ask yourself does a man's religion really matter?

7. See the Movie, "2016: Obama's America" and get back to me.

The Real Reality Check said...

1) Romney will carry HAYS County handily, because a majority of Hays County Republicans are sheep who will believe anything.

Unfortunately Romney will lose the election because the majority of Americans are not as ignorant as us.

2. The true but seemingly "Looney" comments here are serving to energize the Republican Base, as we are all converting to Mormonism as I write this so we can stomach this idiot - because we live now on the planet Kolob

3. Criticizing Romney's religion reminds one of the attacks on JFK for being a Catholic. Only this time Catholism is a real Christian denomination.

4. All religions are based on myth and parables. The Mussys decapitate in the name of Allah. the Catholics molest children, the right wing white male Christians hate women who want to make decisions for their own reproductive choices, and many liberals (goober doesn't know liberalism is not a religion) support last resort abortion of pre-born babies that the right wing fools say must live unwanted - even in the case of rape and incest - and who will not pay taxes for government programs to help to take care of these unwanted children - AND we hypocrite right nuts will not adopt any of the children (especially minority children) - we say must live.

And us right wing hypocrites are fine killing already born babies without a thought if they are born into Muslim families in the Middle East.

5. Jobs are going overseas because that is where Obama sent the money, like in the Cayman Islands and the Bahamas where Romney can shelter his millions and pay a lower tax rate than a hard working American who makes over $70,000 a year taxable income.

6. Look at unemployment the deficit and the debt then ask yourself does a man's religion really matter?

No, unless that religion is based on a crazy form of white superiority and nutty celestial Scientology like premises.

7. See the Movie, "2016: Obama's America" and go research the people who made that idiotic birther "appeal to rasist insanity" conspiracy movie and get back to me.

Prudent Mind said...

The movie "Obama 2016" is about some ridiculous theory that because Obama's father was "anti-colonial power" (which almost all Africans would be if they had any self respect and dignity), Obama is out to destroy America with his presidency.

Funny, Bush has done more in eight years to destroy America - which Obama is still cleaning up after four years.

And Bush's father was very pro-colonial power.

So much for that disguised racist alternative "birther" theory.

Jasper, come in here right now! said...

I agree that too many of us here in Hays County are not using our critical thinking skills and that the
majority of voters will no doubt drink the Rush Limbaugh Koolaid and vote for Romney.

Hays County has beautiful countryside, clean water, great places to live and play, but if we continue to act like fools and vote for reactionary Republicans and against our own best interests, we will eventually lose it all.

Anyone who thinks Romney, Ryan, Rush or Rand cares about the common person in America, you are not paying attention.

Once these oligarchs are in complete control, it will not matter if you vote or not.

Return America to the American people, who are not corporations or millionaires (Well, not many of them, that's for sure) and who are smarter than this. Aren't we?